On the fifth episode of the new fourth season, Ona Russell talks with Jeri Westerson, author of many books, including Veil of Lies, and most recently Courting Dragons.

Los Angeles native Jeri Westerson was born the same day the first nuclear bomb was tested…though not the same year, so she isn’t responsible. She muddled around in life, first thinking to become an actress, woke up during a real world audition and said, “Nope, Nerp. Not doing THIS the rest of my life,” and instead, embarked on a successful career as a graphic designer. But instead of staying there, she made a lateral move to being a writer and found herself the author of fifteen Crispin Guest Medieval Noir novels, a series nominated for 13 national awards from the Agatha to the Shamus. However, she is still the Susan Lucci of mystery awards, awaiting her turn.